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BadMrFrossty
08-28-2008, 10:19 PM
Dodge Viper ACR is the new King.......

http://www.fquick.com/blog/Dodge_Viper_SRT10_ACR_laps_Nurburgring_in_7_22_1/2180
ChevSSCamaro67
08-28-2008, 10:34 PM
Well...hat's off to Dodge, can't really argue with that car lol
askipper
08-29-2008, 06:31 AM
Put that same driver in the ZR1 and not the engineer that was driving it before and I bet the ZR1 will be tops again. I am by no means a ZR1 nutswinger but compare apple to apple as far as a driver. I think the only way to compare THE RING lap times is to let the same driver test all the cars.

Look they used a PROFESSIONAL driver against a GM Engineer.woohoo
ChevSSCamaro67
08-29-2008, 06:36 AM
I don't know, 4 seconds is an eternity.
askipper
08-29-2008, 06:41 AM
I don't know, 4 seconds is an eternity.


Put him in there and run the ZR1 again. Look how much he scraped off after a few laps. He picked up over 10 sec. Now that is an eternity. One slip in a corner can cost you the 4 sec.
askipper
08-29-2008, 06:43 AM
OK I looked again and it was 13 sec he shaved off in 4 laps. 13sec is the new eternity.
ChevSSCamaro67
08-29-2008, 07:12 AM
I'll admit something is fishy, I don't know how heavy the Viper is but it can't be any lighter than the ZR1, and the ZR1 is putting out more power.
02PEWTERTA
08-29-2008, 07:39 AM
is the zr1 even made to take turns like that anyway. i know the vioers have great suspension
Heapashifter
08-29-2008, 08:04 AM
The Viper is a good bit heavier. I don't know an exact number though. It only has 50 less hp. Aerodynamics, downforce, and finely-tuned suspension will take you a long way.
ChevSSCamaro67
08-29-2008, 08:07 AM
The Viper is a good bit heavier. I don't know an exact number though. It only has 50 less hp. Aerodynamics, downforce, and finely-tuned suspension will take you a long way.

Yea I saw that someone said it had mad downforce and great suspension in the comment boxes.
BadMrFrossty
08-29-2008, 10:57 AM
The Viper is heavier than the ZR1 and it's lethaly tuned for the twisties. I haven't seen the vid of the Viper's run but I have of the ZR1. ZR1 left alot on the table in it's run. The guy powerslid a few turns, short shifted-average shift was about 64-6500 rpms. Now granted, I don't think that'll make up for 4secs worth of difference but maybe a pro driver could make it up. I just think Chevy was aiming at beating GT-Rs time hands down and really wouldn't trying to get the absolute fastest time out the car possible. However, I don't know how many tries ZR1 had, nor do we know what the weather was like on either run. In the end, Good Job Dodge! Now, let's take 'em down the 1320 and see whom is that fastest!!!
askipper
08-29-2008, 11:52 AM
The Viper is heavier than the ZR1 and it's lethaly tuned for the twisties. I haven't seen the vid of the Viper's run but I have of the ZR1. ZR1 left alot on the table in it's run. The guy powerslid a few turns, short shifted-average shift was about 64-6500 rpms. Now granted, I don't think that'll make up for 4secs worth of difference but maybe a pro driver could make it up. I just think Chevy was aiming at beating GT-Rs time hands down and really wouldn't trying to get the absolute fastest time out the car possible. However, I don't know how many tries ZR1 had, nor do we know what the weather was like on either run. In the end, Good Job Dodge! Now, let's take 'em down the 1320 and see whom is that fastest!!!


I demand a rematch-balls to the wall trackathon(I made that up but I know you like)
ChevSSCamaro67
08-29-2008, 12:19 PM
I demand a rematch-balls to the wall trackathon(I made that up but I know you like)

I'd love to see a race between all of these super production cars for a good 3 laps around the ring all with pro drivers.
askipper
08-29-2008, 12:34 PM
I'd love to see a race between all of these super production cars for a good 3 laps around the ring all with pro drivers.

I 2nd that.All in favor say I.
ChevSSCamaro67
08-29-2008, 12:36 PM
I 2nd that.All in favor say I.

It's something Top Gear would have to do or at least promote.
askipper
08-29-2008, 12:38 PM
True.
BadMrFrossty
08-29-2008, 05:43 PM
F Top Gear! Clarkson is biased b*st*rd. I can't remember if it was the first C6 or first C6 Z06 he tested but he bashed it heavily although it outran 0-60, road course, and 1/4 times of other cars he "favored" as "better".
ChevSSCamaro67
08-29-2008, 06:42 PM
haha I love Top Gear. He loved the Z06 he just said it wasn't a daily driver because it was too stiff on the road and too loud.
BadMrFrossty
08-29-2008, 07:01 PM
Then it must have been the first C6 he tested. He gave it h*ll over transverse leafsprings
Heapashifter
08-29-2008, 07:29 PM
I don't like transverse leaf springs either
BadMrFrossty
08-29-2008, 08:44 PM
Here's the vid of the run.....

http://www.motortrend.com/av/features/112_0811_2009_dodge_viper_acr_nurburgring_record_v ideo/index.html

After watching it, I would NOT drive the ACR on public roads. Not like I'd ever get a chance to but the bottom of the car got beat to !@#$% all over the track. Obviously Dodge had one thing in mind when making this car.