View Full Version : Meth Injection Install 12-2-08 finally
EVOIXMR
12-01-2008, 08:42 PM
SO I'm dropping the car off tomorrow to get the Meth Injection put in and retuned.
Finally.. lol
Keegan's gonna have Fuuunn. lol
Snow Performance "Stage 2" with all upgrades and failsafes.
Install probably Tues. + Wed. and then slap it on the rollers on Thursday to see the difference.
Should be good for another 50 or so whp.
We'll see Thursday.
Will update with results asap.
Heapashifter
12-01-2008, 08:54 PM
I'm hoping to see 500 awhp
BadMrFrossty
12-01-2008, 08:57 PM
That's stupid.
Joker
12-01-2008, 08:59 PM
Why is that?
JUICEDLS2
12-01-2008, 09:02 PM
bad ass...
BadMrFrossty
12-01-2008, 09:03 PM
500awhp is stupid power
Joker
12-01-2008, 09:06 PM
I think with that much power in AWD he can actually do somewhat of a drift.
askipper
12-01-2008, 09:12 PM
nice
NSRT4
12-01-2008, 09:23 PM
haha i have a kit too...shhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you should pick up more hp than that^^^ i think i saw a something on the super street mag a while back where they had an evo that made 90hp more with a meth kit. 50/50 i think im not sure.
Surfstang2020
12-01-2008, 09:25 PM
nice, so you were sprying when we ran ? lol
Joker
12-01-2008, 09:29 PM
nice, so you were sprying when we ran ? lol
Im feeling a wanted re-match lol
even tho I dont think he has it on the blue car yet. but i could be wrong.
NSRT4
12-01-2008, 09:30 PM
no i was 10.1 too fucking rich. i wouldve been like 8.8 far too rich if i had it on.
Joker
12-01-2008, 09:31 PM
Hear that chris?
get driver mod and rematch from a dig hehe
Surfstang2020
12-01-2008, 09:32 PM
no rematch lol im track only :)
NSRT4
12-01-2008, 09:32 PM
Im feeling a wanted re-match lol
even tho I dont think he has it on the blue car yet. but i could be wrong.
you can see the pump where the bumper and fender meet on the drivers side. you can also see the controller box next to the cluster on the left.:leright::guns::guns::guns::guns::guns:
Joker
12-01-2008, 09:33 PM
But I havent looked at the car yet so I wouldnt know.
Some people like to hid their stuff too so idk.:dunno:
Joker
12-01-2008, 09:34 PM
no rematch lol im track only :)
But we both know its a hard temptation to give up on.
NSRT4
12-01-2008, 09:34 PM
no rematch lol im track only :)
hahaha im trying to get a set of slicks right now. lol
Joker
12-01-2008, 09:35 PM
Slicks would kill my rear end.
NSRT4
12-01-2008, 09:35 PM
:hijacked::hijacked::hijacked::hijacked:
NSRT4
12-01-2008, 09:36 PM
Slicks would kill my rear end.
time for an upgrade
Joker
12-01-2008, 09:37 PM
2 grand tho :(
NSRT4
12-01-2008, 09:41 PM
anyways so what comes with the meth kit you bough?
Surfstang2020
12-01-2008, 09:43 PM
stuff lol
EVOIXMR
12-01-2008, 10:03 PM
I got the 150 psi pump, upgraded pump solenoid, upgraded wastegate solenoid, 3 qt. tank, SafeInjection failsafe, VC-25 controller,
3 nozzles 625/375/150mL, Low level indicator, Snow Digital "milliLiter" Flow guage >
"RMR" Carbon Fiber steering column pod for the flow guage.
90 awhp would be sweet, hehe..
Prob. closer to 50-60 though with a safe tune - if i had to guess.
I'm thinking around 440-450ish on 93 pump gas and meth, [28-29 psi]
and close to 500 with C16 and meth with crazy Boost [32+].
but idk, we'll see.
I'm Not wanting to lift a HG, and also keep the tune safe.
Surfstang2020
12-01-2008, 10:04 PM
nice
FourSix
12-01-2008, 10:08 PM
What are the stock bottom ends good to? I know those engines are stout...
EVOIXMR
12-01-2008, 10:14 PM
500 is about as far as you can go b4 u start breaking stuff.
there have been some with more, but i'm not gonna find out, lol..
Transmission at that kinda power is pushing it too.
Some day i'll prob stroke it to 2.3 but thats after i pay it off, and even then, it's no turning back after that.
so thats about as far as i'll go b4 i stop modding the engine.
Shep race trans is 3-4k and AMS stroker kit is prob same or more.
plus bigger turbo after that, it gets crazy expensive from there.
Joker
12-01-2008, 10:15 PM
Yea mitsubishi trannys arent well known to hold up that well.
Surfstang2020
12-01-2008, 10:16 PM
paul can probably tell you about that lol
NSRT4
12-01-2008, 10:33 PM
I got the 150 psi pump, upgraded pump solenoid, upgraded wastegate solenoid, 3 qt. tank, SafeInjection failsafe, VC-25 controller,
3 nozzles 625/375/150mL, Low level indicator, Snow Digital "milliLiter" Flow guage >
"RMR" Carbon Fiber steering column pod for the flow guage.
90 awhp would be sweet, hehe..
Prob. closer to 50-60 though with a safe tune - if i had to guess.
I'm thinking around 440-450ish on 93 pump gas and meth, [28-29 psi]
and close to 500 with C16 and meth with crazy Boost [32+].
but idk, we'll see.
I'm Not wanting to lift a HG, and also keep the tune safe.
damn my kit is alot simpler and with fewer parts. how much you paid for all that
FourSix
12-01-2008, 10:35 PM
500 is about as far as you can go b4 u start breaking stuff.
there have been some with more, but i'm not gonna find out, lol..
Transmission at that kinda power is pushing it too.
Some day i'll prob stroke it to 2.3 but thats after i pay it off, and even then, it's no turning back after that.
so thats about as far as i'll go b4 i stop modding the engine.
Shep race trans is 3-4k and AMS stroker kit is prob same or more.
plus bigger turbo after that, it gets crazy expensive from there.
Nice, that is still stout as hell for the displacement though.
Parts add $ up quiiiiiick.
EVOIXMR
12-01-2008, 11:12 PM
damn my kit is alot simpler and with fewer parts. how much you paid for all that
600$
06MREvo
12-01-2008, 11:24 PM
ill be by the shop tomorrow and check out the install and whatnot...my guess is a 35-40whp gain with meth. after Charlie retunes...so say 410-415whp on pump & meth. C16 & meth will be a little different story though...probably another 35 whp or so over your pump & meth. #s...So probably 450-460whp on C16 & meth....thats my guess...depending on how fast Keegan does the install...we should find out by Wednesday night probably...
EVOIXMR
12-01-2008, 11:32 PM
yea, I'm anxious to see how the car likes the Meth.
Hopefully the install will go as planned and all the parts work.
I have to work Wed. at 3pm, so i'll do the dyno stuff on Thursday.
I've been kinda skeptical of the meth injection up til now, and have put it off, but others have seen good gains, so we'll see.
NSRT4
12-01-2008, 11:33 PM
600$
wow i paid 290 for mine. boost activated switch
i installed it in an hour. lol
NSRT4
12-01-2008, 11:35 PM
just make sure you use real methanol not windshield washer fluid. lol
so what are you planning using? a 50/50 or straight meth?
EVOIXMR
12-01-2008, 11:38 PM
just make sure you use real methanol not windshield washer fluid. lol
so what are you planning using? a 50/50 or straight meth?
50/50
NSRT4
12-01-2008, 11:43 PM
good luck man.
EVOIXMR
12-02-2008, 12:21 AM
thanks, i appreciate it.
I paid 400 for the main Snow kit with the upgraded stuff.
And paid 100 for the RMR CF pod, and i think 75$ for the flow guage which are options not needed but i wanted em.
So it wasnt too bad on price.
I really wanted the aquamist HFS-5 with DDs3 controller,that is like 12-1300$.. so i went with Snow.
Install is pretty straight forward, it's the SafeInjection failsafe, wiring stuff I'm a little worried about.
Hopefully it all works like it's supposed to.
11secondsnake
12-02-2008, 04:11 PM
sweet
EVOIXMR
12-07-2008, 12:53 AM
Keegan should have everything done and working tomorrow[Sunday] sometime.
Waiting on the flow guage to be wired and then it's on the dyno for test and tune late aftenoon.
Will post how it goes when Charlie's done tuning..
Hopefully all goes well.
mrfit4speed@rsspeedlabs
12-07-2008, 05:01 PM
Its alive......Going on the Dyno now.......6.00pm
Blown Goat
12-07-2008, 05:39 PM
You're gonna love it. Is it boost triggered or progressive. Mine is boost triggered- set to spray @ 7psi of boost. You can set it where ever you want. I had mine originally to trigger @ 5psi. Alcohol Injection Systems. Suggested 7psi. Saw a 35hp gain on the dyno with that change. Also, I dont use as much methanol, unless I'm into it.
Heapashifter
12-07-2008, 06:02 PM
You're gonna love it. Is it boost triggered or progressive. Mine is boost triggered- set to spray @ 7psi of boost. You can set it where ever you want. I had mine originally to trigger @ 5psi. Alcohol Injection Systems. Suggested 7psi. Saw a 35hp gain on the dyno with that change. Also, I dont use as much methanol, unless I'm into it.
Boost triggered and progressive. Starts to come on about 11 psi and full spray at about 19 psi. We're still messing with the settings though.
Surfstang2020
12-07-2008, 06:13 PM
nice
11secondsnake
12-07-2008, 07:46 PM
ok so how did it do
EVOIXMR
12-07-2008, 08:54 PM
We're Still working on setting up all the failsafe settings and flow settings on the controller.
it was late, so we'll be back at it tomorrow.
It's Alot of stuff to set up right.
Thank you Keegan for coming in on your day off to finish up the install. :thumb:
11secondsnake
12-07-2008, 08:56 PM
ok sounds good
EVOIXMR
12-09-2008, 11:17 PM
Finally got it all working today and first couple pulls on the dyno after a little ecu fiddling and it put down 405 awhp. with 11.0 afr. on 93 pump gas and 100% alcohol. Boost= 25 psi - 3rd gear.
My 1:1 is 4th.
So I still have some room to improve.
Should see a bit more out of it once I get the failsafe boost solenoid replaced.
Didnt wanna go much more with out the failsafe
very safe map baseline was 343, and after some tuning 405.
So 62awhp gain
Failsafe boost solenoid turned out to be bad, so we just bypassed it for now, til i can get a new one.
Last pull shot a 4 foot BLUE flame out that lasted for 3-4 secs. lol hehe..
Missed a pic. though, dammit....
I Will post more after i get the new Failsafe Boost solenoid.
FourSix
12-10-2008, 12:05 AM
Bad ass.
06MREvo
12-10-2008, 12:45 AM
congrats Jamie...so my power guess wasn't too far off...i've heard from Charlie over the past couple days all the day problems he has had with it...hopefully once that solenoid is fixed you can pull another 10-15whp more out of it...
11secondsnake
12-10-2008, 05:14 PM
nice
EVOIXMR
12-10-2008, 10:40 PM
Solenoid is fixed.
Failsafe works.
Vacuum lines to the solenoid were hooked up wrong.
WELL, put it this way. "The instructions said one way", that didnt work.
Called SNOW, hooked it up differently, and it works now. pfftt...
So as soon as Charlie gets back from PRI this weekend in Orlando, were gonna put it back on the dyno and lean it out a teeny bit more and see what she's got.
Maybe another 15 or so.
420-425, maybe..
405 at the wheels on pump [in 3rd +awd] is pretty sweet though. :drool:
4th is my 1:1, so it's got a bit more in it, than 405. :woohoo:
It was fun driving back home from the shop down 31 on my way home tonight. :)
06MREvo
12-10-2008, 11:45 PM
you need to correct you sig Jamie...
405AWHP on pump gas & meth.
hahaha...
NSRT4
12-11-2008, 12:30 AM
wow thats impressive. i wanna squeeze 400plus horses out of my stock long block on 23psi with a good diablo tune and 93gas. hm
EVOIXMR
12-11-2008, 01:23 AM
you need to correct you sig Jamie...
405AWHP on pump gas & meth.
hahaha...
LOL, Done..
EVOIXMR
12-11-2008, 05:41 PM
Here's some pics I took of the install.
Tank,Pump,failsafe in, no wiring yet.
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/36/l_7a826bd1264143b6ae03173eb645b62c.jpg
Wastegate Solenoid
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/63/l_5164a11f07414740ac923a45e971ca19.jpg
Nozzle bung welded in.
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/62/l_38146050b2f449ae837a8e1b5e91f3dd.jpg
Almost Done.
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/54/l_32d45178fe48445ca26498c29869c982.jpg
Install Complete.
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/61/l_bd02789c2a7b45b6b43def2ad29951da.jpg
Controller in Console.
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/15/l_1bed253efaca4298877039f2ab423ad9.jpg
RMR Carbon Fiber Guage Pod with Digital Flow Guage and warning lights.
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/37/l_9cc750194db74354879993e6ec4f0e0d.jpg
Flow Guage Power on.
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/60/l_65d6093b20164abe8a32a3f4888e5bf2.jpg
Side View.
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/57/l_fd9a7dfdd2804917a488fb88569c8b6f.jpg
06MREvo
12-11-2008, 06:33 PM
Looks good...i was checking out the pics on myspace earlier...once Charlie gets back and tries getting a little more power out of it I need a ride...
11secondsnake
12-11-2008, 06:35 PM
looks good
Heapashifter
12-11-2008, 08:08 PM
A picture I took with my cell phone during installation:
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l181/Heapashifter/Photo0061.jpg
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